Cuba's progressive regime executes 3 hijackers less than 2 weeks after the hijacking

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Without being facetious, I'd like to hear the honest, strong condemnations of those who are loudly berating the unfair treatment of prisoners at Guatanamo Bay, Cuba, with respect to what a fine government like that run by Fidel Castro is doing. At last check, the United States has not executed prisoners within 2 weeks of their crime, but then I suppose justice is swift when you've got a thug like Fidel in power ...

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By ANITA SNOW, Associated Press Writer

HAVANA - Three men convicted of hijacking a passenger ferry last week were executed by firing squad Friday, a swift response by Fidel Castro (news - web sites)'s government to a recent string of hijackings to the United States.

The executions coincided with a crackdown and stiff prison sentences for scores of the government's most vocal critics — both cases reflecting a new determination by Cuba to squash perceived threats to its socialist system.

A court sentenced the men Tuesday after finding them guilty of "very grave acts of terrorism," said a statement read on state television.

The three cases were appealed to both Cuba's Supreme Tribunal and the governing Council of State and all the sentences were upheld. "At dawn today the sanctions were applied," the statement said.

Cuban officials say that the four recent successful and attempted hijackings were caused in part on what it calls a lax attitude by American authorities toward hijackers who reach U.S. shores. They also say that they were part of a plot by the South Florida exile community to rupture migration accords between the two countries.

In Washington, the State Department condemned the hijackings but expressed concern that the cases may have been handled in a summary fashion. A statement said that such proceedings "are the hallmark of a totalitarian dictatorship like Cuba."

Cuba's Roman Catholic bishops issued a statement questioning both the executions and the political crackdown.

"Violence is not eliminated with more violence," it said, adding that they were also concerned about "long prison sentences imposed on political opponents."

Even as the sentences were carried out, Cuba announced the arrests of four men Friday who allegedly were planning to hijack a plane on Cuba's small Isle of Youth, south of the main island. The men were arrested late Thursday. The government said that they never boarded the plane.

Despite Cuba's claims, state television here last week broadcast a message by U.S. Interests Sections Chief James Cason asking Cubans not to hijack any more planes or boats. Cason warned that hijackers who reached American shores would be arrested, tried and kicked out of the United States after serving long sentences.

The government has accused Cason and the United States of fomenting dissent among government opponents, allegations U.S. officials have denied.

In less than a month, the government arrested, tried and convicted 75 dissidents. All were sentenced this week to terms ranging from 6 to 28 years on charges of receiving money from and collaborating with U.S. diplomats to undermine Cuba's leadership.

The statement identified those executed as leaders of the hijacking: Lorenzo Enrique Copello Castillo, Barbaro Leodan Sevilla Garcia and Jorge Luis Martinez Isaac.

"They shot him," cried the mother of Copello Castillo. "I love my nation. But now I no longer love Fidel," said Ramona Copello Castillo.

She said her son should have been prosecuted "but not by shooting him to death."

Four other men received life sentences, while four others received sentences ranging from 30 years to two years.

International rights groups and representatives of the Cuban exile community were outraged.


"To execute these men is itself a human rights violation, and to do it less than two weeks after their alleged crimes shows a flagrant disregard of the right to a defense," said Jose Miguel Vivanco, executive director of the Americas Division of Human Rights Watch.

"Castro does this so you get outraged, so you overreact. What he's doing is cutting off Cuba's future," said Joe Garcia, executive director of the Cuban American National Foundation — the nation's largest Cuban exile group. "

Capital punishment in Cuba is always carried out by firing squad but has been used sparingly in recent years.

No one was hurt in the hijacking of the ferry Baragua. A group of men armed with at least one pistol and several knives seized the ferry in Havana Bay early on April 2 and set sail for the United States about 50 hostages on board.

Later that day, the ferry ran out of fuel in the high seas of the Florida Straits and officers on the two Cuban Coast Guard patrol boats that chased them there tried to persuade the hijackers to return to the island.

The hijackers allegedly threatened to throw passengers overboard but eventually agreed to let the ferry be towed the 30 miles back to Cuba's Mariel port for refueling.

After the boat was docked in Mariel, west of Havana, Cuban authorities eventually gained control of the ferry and the suspects arrested and hostages freed uninjured.

The ferry was hijacked a day after a man who said he had two grenades forced a Cuban passenger plane to fly to Key West, Fla. The grenades turned out to be fake.
 
What do you mean by that? Just curious.

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castro's balls are bigger...

that doesn't make anyone a "castro lover"

"saddam lover"
"kim il jong lover"
"mao lover"

ad nauseam...

will it ever stop?
 
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"Violence is not eliminated with more violence," it said, adding that they were also concerned about "long prison sentences imposed on political opponents."


It's ironic that this was posted by a war supporter...
 
Cuba executed 3 criminals. So what..

The US would have locked them up for 10 concurrent life sentences, in a super max joint.

How humane is that?

I'd rather take the bullet..
 
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Furthermore, if the conservatives here think that being a human shield is "treason" (a word whose gravity they have mocked through constant usage) then I think an argument could be made for treason in this case.
 
RF:

1. Fidel will still be Presidente when Bush is kicked out of office ( .. I mean loses his re election )

2. Fidel is more popular worldwide and admired by more people - than Bush will ever be.
 

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Grantt: totally predictable - rather than say something worthwhile, you lavish praise on Castro.

Radio: the fact that Grantt knows the size of Castro's balls is rather disconcerting, wouldn't you say?
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Judge: with due respect, it is important every now and then to show what some of these countries that make up this world, which I keep hearing so much about that we should listen to their opinions, actually do in their own countries. So, the next time Cuba lectures the US on some issue, it wouldn't hurt to know they shoot their prisoners within 2 weeks - no 9-10 years on death row, no appeals, no nothing.

Radio: One thing I do not do and never will is edit articles I post - I do not agree with that statement at all about the violence - it just happened to be contained therein.

Joey: lol! Really. Are you that callous that you don't see what that 'So what' statement you just made actually means? It means you want to hold the US to some impossible standard of yours while not giving a damn what other countries in this world do. You're comparing a total lack of due process with a bullet in the head as superior to that of the American system, correct? That means you must also think that of the Iraqis, that killing their dissenters was more humane than locking them up, by logical extension. The funny thing is, had I posted a topic in support of the death penalty in the US for some reason, then I would have been blasted by some of the posters for such inhumane treatment, and would have heard the argument that at least a life term would mean it would be possible for either innocence to be established or clemency to be given - yet you didn't seem to think about that.

radio: I never once said a human shield would be treasonous if an American citizen - why? Because I would hope to God that if the US troops found themselves in a firefight and taking casualties, and some human shield was 'heroically' protecting the Iraqi soldiers, that they humanely and quickly put a bullet in his heart so no more troops would be endangered. That's the extent I've thought about those shields. Treasonous? No, because they would be and have proven to be completely useless, tools of the Saddam regime, which a lot have already admitted and related to the press.
 
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jazz,

1) i was referring the the human shields in israel
2) the "treason" argument was directed toward those who post such filth and,
3) it is disconcerting that grantt knows castro in the biblical sense
 
Jazz:

Hold the US to an impossible standard?

LMFAO....

US lost is diplomatic "class" a long time ago.

It's now just the biggest bitch on the block.

JC
 

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The analysis of these executions in Cuba has lacked serious depth.

I have seen some of the Castro apologists here draw a parallel between the US justice system and what Castro did here...nice try.

You are conveniently forgetting one KEY fact. The people who were convicted of "hijacking" were taking this dramatic action because CASTRO WILL NOT LET THEM LEAVE THE COUNTRY VOLUNTARILY!!!

It's easy for you left wing vermin basking in the freedom to talk out of your ass with no real consequence to draw ridiculous comparisons between the US and Cuban systems of justice. Ironically, the very same people who criticize the US and heap subtle admiration on Castro would find themselves locked in a Cuban jail/torture chamber if the roles were reversed.

Despite your dismissal of this as "Castro Balls" this is a GREAT tragedy. These people were MURDERED for the mere desire of wanting to leave their country. If they were allowed to leave, as they would be in any civilized nation, then none of these "hijackings" would have ever taken place.
 
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But somehow, when human shields are involved, apparently your heart doesn't skip a beat?

Is there a soft spot in your heart for those who commit treason against other nations?
 

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Radio Free,

What the hell do the two have to do with each other? You are comparing apples and oranges.

The Cuban "hijackers" were executed as an official act of government policy. They are specifically targeted and killed.

The Human Shields, if killed, are killed not because they are specific targets, but because they intentionally place themselves in a position of danger to further their political agenda.

In the Cuban example, the participants are trying to live their lives without interference. If Castro let them leave, there would be no hijacking. They are victims without choice.

In the Human Shields example, those individuals already HAVE free choices to do what they want. They CAN avoid conflict and STILL have freedom. They choose not to and die not be intentional acts, hence they are less sympathetic than the Cubans, even if I do feel bad for them and their families.
 
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The Human Shields, if killed, are killed not because they are specific targets, but because they intentionally place themselves in a position of danger to further their political agenda.

Saving lives is a political agenda?

I mention the two together because here some have called for the "execution" of human shields in saying that they have "aided and abetted" the enemy and because Castro could justify (if he needed to) the executions of these men by appealing to the need to execute seditious acts.
 

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